posted June 14, 2006 02:47 PM
Did you know? OIL FILTER, SAVE $$$ I just wanted to share this. Did you know that the Subaru Impreza WRX turbo use the same oil filter as the ZX10R? I'm currently using one by Purolator. You can put the filters side by side and you will scratch your head. It should save you $8.00 or more compared to K&N or Kawasaki oil filters. I also switched to 5W40 SHELL Rotella T full synthetic (blue bottle). You can do your own research. Just type up SHELL ROTELLA T in Google.com. There's a ton of racers here in SoCal that are using it. It cost about $15.00 a gallon at your local Walmart. Its made for Diesel trucks but if you click on the "ask the expert" section on the Shell site it will not hard our wet clutches. Hey so far so good 14k miles of hard riding...
posted June 14, 2006 02:57 PM
Here you go these are your choices:SUBARU OE OIL FILTER: 15208AA080 PUROLATOR OIL FILTER: L14612 FRAM OIL FILTER: PH6607 WIX OIL FILTER: 51365 K&N OIL FILTER: HP-1008 AMSOIL OIL FILTER: SDF13 ...
posted June 14, 2006 06:50 PM
The Pure One PL14610 or PL14612 is a far better filter than OEM!! NO factory can deny a claim because of that anyway. They may cry foul ball but that's just a game they play. I have a lawyer for those type of game players.
posted June 14, 2006 09:24 PM
I bought a couple of genuine Kawi filters a few weeks ago. There was a load of contamination in the form of machining slag in the bypass holes. You may save more than a few dollars by switching away from Kawi filters. You may save your engine.
posted June 14, 2006 09:51 PM
Hey if I offended anybody for offering help, that's fine. I did'nt realize that a paper towel inside a coke can is considered rocket science. Do you really think that I won't replace the stock oem filter if I ever needed warranty work? By the way the water pump in the ZX10R is made by MIKUNI (oops!!! ain't that a carburator company?) not kawasaki....lol
posted June 15, 2006 05:24 AM
BIG BIG MISTAKE .... go with KAWK or K&N ....they flow differently .... its kind of like replacing you Air Filter with a Air Cartridege from Home Depot because it fits.
BAD BAD idea ..... hasent anyone told you that Slow Oil means BLOWN MOTOR !!
posted June 15, 2006 06:44 AM
Who pays $50 for a air filter? I just pack my air box full of cotton balls from the 99cent store. Nice topic tigger. You can lead a horse to water........
posted June 15, 2006 07:19 AM
Hard to believe a WRX Turbo oil filter would be slow.... Sounds like a lot of assumptions on this thread...I'll stick to OEM but intend to inspect each one to be safe...not really a high cost item guys...
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posted June 15, 2006 01:27 PM
Edited By: philmy3rdleg on 15 Jun 2006 14:27
When you race, do track days and try to buy in bulk to save time and money, everythings a cost item.
posted June 15, 2006 01:54 PM
The simple facts are you guys are a day late and a dollar short on this topic. It's been researched to death in days past. The OEM filter manufacture has even been tracked down and found to make ONLY middle of the road filters. NOT the extreme high end high quality stuff some of you guys think. It's manufactured to meet a spec and that's it. As long as it meets that spec it will do. They're NOT trying to produce the highest quality filter money can buy, but only a filter that meets the standard a manufacture requires. Thinking that Kawasaki or any other OEM specs the best is insane. The Pure One filter spoken about here has been found to filter down to a much smaller partical size than OE. Also the PL14610 is a longer filter than OEM which increases the filtering surface area a great deal. The increased surface area will allow for easier flow thru the filter and even increase the life of the filter before the bypass starts to open up and allow dirty oil past. In your wisdon or lack there of ask yourself why Kawasaki don't supply Better brake lines for example on their bikes from the factory? It's because the chicken shit rubber lines meet the spec they require and NO MORE! This same situation is found from front to back of all their stuff. IT'S AS GOOD AS IT NEEDS TO BE AND NO MORE! Jump on in boys the water is fine
posted June 15, 2006 03:04 PM
most all 100,000 and higher cars use rubber brake lines and they are harder to stop than bikes. Steel lines are better not absolutte. the cost would go up on manufacturing. The oem filters are bike specific. the oil volume and pressure at the oil filter is not the same on all bikes and definatly not a 5000 redline car engine.
posted June 15, 2006 03:16 PM
The OEM manufacturers filters are made by a Japanese company called Toyo Roki. They make everything from fuel filters, to fuel pumps, to charcoal canisters, to natural gas filters, to home water purifiers, to even tea grinders! http://www.toyoroki.co.jp/e/products/pro01.html
If you think that Toyo Roki is specifically engineering an OEM filter specifically designed to work in harmony with the zx10 engine, then you're fooling yourself. All that happens is Kawasaki calls up Toyo Roki and says, "Hey, build us a filter with these dimensions, with an anti-drainback valve, and a bypass valve that operates at xx psi." Toyo Roki is then instructed to put a Kawasaki part # on the filter, and then it's a done deal.
As mentioned before, the Purolator PL14610 is identical in specs to the stock Toyo Roki filter. I refuse to pay more for something that performs at best only equal to the Purolator. But hey, I'm just a Jew.
posted June 15, 2006 04:13 PM
Edited By: GUNNER on 15 Jun 2006 17:14
quote:most all 100,000 and higher cars use rubber brake lines and they are harder to stop than bikes. Steel lines are better not absolutte. the cost would go up on manufacturing. The oem filters are bike specific. the oil volume and pressure at the oil filter is not the same on all bikes and definatly not a 5000 redline car engine.
posted June 15, 2006 04:40 PM
Tigger, didnt mean to come off like an ass...I was just adding my
I hear ya Gunner...Most manufacturers use spec stuff to save $$$...I say use OEM oil filters because the manufacturer put it's name on it so they are liable...Just my choice...
Besides does anyone make an awesome product for a specific use that we can get our $$$ worth???
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posted June 15, 2006 05:06 PM
Take the wheel bearings for example that Kawasaki uses. They're JUNK! Sure they roll round and round but that's where it stops. For a few bucks more you can get a bearing that will allow the wheel to turn much easier. Why don't they use these? BECAUSE they're cheap Bastids. &&&& the other bearing will get the job done for a cheaper price.
posted June 15, 2006 06:34 PM
thanks for the info on the filters. I was wondering about that, since my friends also look for better deals on them and try to match w/ cheaper price ones. Filters a filter. I'm not payin $15 for something that isn't worth that. Good job on lookin that info up... noticed the water pump name too...
posted June 15, 2006 07:50 PM
The only problem I see is the drain back valve and especially the bypass valve pressure. The media has been tested dozens of times. But just because a filter looks like another one doesn't mean that they have the same valving. Go find one of the dozens of test and get the filter that has the best filter capabilities and proper valving. I seem to remember reading that the Mobil 1 filter has got the good media and is highly rated.
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posted June 15, 2006 08:10 PM
The funny thing is these guys thinking that the OEM is designed for just one model... NEWS FLASH!!! The same filter fits most the Kawasaki and Honda sportbikes and I'll dare to include Suzuki as well. EXACT same filter for dozens of models and several makes. For you guys that think Kawasaki designed a special filter for the 10 or any other power plant you need to get back up to the launch pad your ROCKET is about to leave without you
posted June 16, 2006 06:15 AM
Yeah like the clutch plates for the ZX14, is the same for the CBRxx,Busa and some dirt bikes...
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