pretorius12
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posted April 28, 2009 07:34 AM
 Edited By: pretorius12 on 28 Apr 2009 15:59
muzzy clutch kit
I have been forum reader for a while now and finally decided to start posting. Like your favorite teacher all ways told ya, 'you wont know till you ask." I have a 2000 zx12. I was wondering is the basket and the hub absolutely necessary or can i just get away with just the hub and clutches. The 12 is the daily street rider with an occasional drag race.
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almost_les
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posted April 28, 2009 10:11 AM
get a basket because the stock ones suck. my friend broke his doing a wheelie on a stock wheelbase. the hub would be more for if you race it a lot and need the extra oil to keep from cooking it. you don't need a muzzy one since you can get a 2002 and up hub for a lot cheaper, even though they aret he same.
if it comes down to just getting just one or the other, go with the basket!
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pretorius12
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posted April 28, 2009 11:45 AM
So the basket is the part that is doing the "exploding"?
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KZScott
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posted April 28, 2009 04:54 PM
get the billet basket and do a search on oiling mods, i had a "how to" awhile back with pics
last a heard Muzzy was drilling 02 hubs with his same pattern as the early ones....
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pretorius12
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posted April 28, 2009 05:06 PM
Its either one or the other. Don't have bill gates funds, my clutches are shot and just want to upgrade before something goes wrong. I haven't drag race the 12 or the 14, just trying to get ahead of the game before a major disaster happens. Would clutches and a basket suffice? or could i just put some clutches in; considering that a drag race is an occasional (call me out and i bite back) situation.
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KZScott
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posted April 28, 2009 06:05 PM
get the billet basket, and new fibers if your are worn, if your steels are flat reuse them. colour is fine if they arent warped. oiling mods are free if you have a drill, no need for a new hub thats drilled. do a search for oiling mods or not enough oil in clutch ect
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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pretorius12
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posted April 28, 2009 06:09 PM
Really do appreciate you, KZscott. You are one informed dude. I have read alot of your post on kawasakiworld. Thanks alot. Keep that wheel down!!!!!
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KZScott
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posted April 29, 2009 04:17 PM
doing my best 
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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CJ
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posted June 02, 2009 05:53 PM
Can anyone tell me about oiling mod have dry clutched with billet basket. Where , how big and how many holes do i need thx????
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BrooklynNYZX12
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posted June 02, 2009 06:42 PM
Buy the 2002 and later clutch hub it has the holes in the back that allow the oil to get to the clutch pack.Earlier model hubs don't have this.I also believe people mistake the names of the parts the hub is the inner part the basket is the outer with the gear on it.
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GregB4479
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posted June 03, 2009 11:44 PM
Hey Im new here Ive got a ? for ya guys. I have a 2000 zx12 that i need to replace the clutches in, I know for sure it has a falicon basket, what im trying to figure out is if it has the muzzy hub and plates, how do i tell so i know what to order? i was told if it has the muzzy hub that i have to go with muzzy plates, i plan on reusing the steels.
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KZScott
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posted June 04, 2009 12:13 PM
it will have machining done by the hub nut, and holes to allow oil to get to the middle of the clutch pack if its a muzzy. the muzzy friction plates are just oem anyway, only the steels are diff(muzzy are thicker)
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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CrotchRocket
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posted June 07, 2009 09:18 AM
The Muzzy hub and OEM hub are exactly the same and you dont need to use Muzzy clutches with Muzzy hub...
As Scott said its all OEM stuff, Muzzy just uses 2.0 steels...
By the way Muzzy now uses a 2002 & newer OEM hub, but added his drilling in the channels, which makes it better than Kawasaki OEM for oiling to the clutches!!!
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GregB4479
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posted June 08, 2009 11:28 PM
Well, I appreciate your guys's help. Im gonna tear this bad boy down wednesday afternoon and order some parts hope all goes well. any of you guys run the muzzy lock up clutch? thinking about ordering one this year.
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KZScott
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posted June 09, 2009 03:35 PM
get the MTC. better designed pull rod
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01 ZX-12R 8.84 @ 156.3 no bars, DOT tires. Pump Gas, NA.... turbo 8.47 @ 164.
00 ZX-12R 8.62 @ 165.2 no bars, slicks, Pump Gas, 55 shot.... turbo 8.32 @173
00 ZX-12R Fastest NA Kawasaki in the world 1: 222.046 1.5: 226.390 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R street turbo 1: 227.9 1.5: 234.1 Loring AFB
00 ZX-12R LSR turbo 1: 263.1 1.5: 266.5 Loring AFB Worlds fastest ZX-12R
CMG Racing RCC Turbos
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GregB4479
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posted June 09, 2009 09:17 PM
well guys, i got it tore down found out that it does have the falicon basket, and the muzzy clutch kit. i got all the steels and fibers out , the fiber on the inside was broke into several pieces and the steels are aweful discolored. so im going to go ahead and just order the muzzy steel and fiber kit. thanks for all the help. atleast i didnt have to walk into it blindly LOL
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posted June 11, 2009 03:11 PM
Don't waste money on steels if they are not warped......, color means nothing........
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GregB4479
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posted June 16, 2009 08:58 AM
Ok so im ready to put the clutches back into my bike, does anyone happen to know if the 1 odd ball fiber goes in first or last?
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posted June 16, 2009 10:11 PM
What year model?
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keith
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posted June 17, 2009 06:41 AM
The odball fibre as you call it is the one narrower radially I expect. Its only narrower to allow for the round spring that fits inside it. That fibre is the first one you put in. I use stock Kawa 2mm steels, part no. 13089-1124, may be cheaper than Muzzy over here in the UK.
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squidbilly
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posted July 02, 2009 05:38 PM
My bike has Gone 8.6 at 169.8 and I have a stock basket never had a problem. I have the muzzys clutch and hub I think it works well. I tried to put spray on my big motor and just found out the limit of this clutch it wouldnt hold a 40 shot. For a street bike stock clutch is fine in my opnion.
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posted July 02, 2009 07:08 PM
Squid...You have the stock basket in your 12???
If so, save yourself alot of $$$ and down time by putting a Billet Basket in...
I know everyone else will agree!!!
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squidbilly
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posted July 03, 2009 06:59 PM
I do have the stock basket. My buddy does to he even had clutch fibers explode with no damage to the basket. I know its cheap insurance but I keep spending the money on other things!
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