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DeathProof
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posted January 23, 2009 03:40 PM
ZX12R Streetfighterz
Death is her name and she is going to Bonneville salt flats, Utah 2009 to break a world record. Let me know what you think of her and if you need some pointers or help creating the baddest streetfighter out there. I am still working on this bike but she is a beast and can run over 200mph easy. Turbo in the works, contact james at armageddonmotorsports@gmail.com for more info. post or send me pics of your 12 if she be a fighter.
   
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KZScott
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posted January 23, 2009 11:12 PM
why are you running a shinko on stock wheel base?
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almost_les
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posted January 24, 2009 11:43 AM
 Edited By: almost_les on 24 Jan 2009 18:53
don't even think about taking a shinko above 200. get a tire thats made for speed. don't be surprised if you have to add some boost when you get up here. i live east of the flats about 10 miles west of salt lake city and the altitude will kill your power.
what injectors and fuel pump are you running?
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DeathProof
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posted January 24, 2009 03:01 PM
Stock wheel base because it is faster for land speed, can't afford to drag race this bike as it is the only ride I have, I don't own a car or truck. This is my daily driver. shinko because they are cheap and fun to beat up on. I am running diabo's on the salt flats. I have had no problems with the shinko tire yet, and beleive it or not I ran 190mph on the gps for 2.5 miles with a fried skunk stripped shinko that was down to the last threads and still rode two more days before it blew. I will never do that again! I also stunt this bike. goin to post a video of the 190mph run that my friend made, he did get the spec's wrong though the bike has 200hp wiseco 1270cc not 220hp that is just not possible for that size motor with no turbo and 50hp nos. 250hp! Oh yeah, Bosch injectors and Muzzy fuel pump.
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KZScott
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posted January 24, 2009 06:12 PM
good luck with the record.... dont kill yourself
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8.97@ 155.7 NA (pump gas)
top speed in the 1/4: 161 MPH N2O
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almost_les
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posted January 24, 2009 06:18 PM
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beleive it or not I ran 190mph on the gps for 2.5 miles with a fried skunk stripped shinko that was down to the last threads
thats like bragging about playing russian roulette and getting off five clicks, yeah you lived, but thats freaking retarded
i'm pretty sure a tire is cheaper than a hospital stay...
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KZScott
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posted January 24, 2009 07:16 PM
i dont even know where to start...
wiseco doesnt even make a 1270 kit. Muzzy makes that(using je pistons), wiseco makes a 1272 kit. got a dyno graph of the 200 hp run? have a dyno run of the 250 hp nitrous pull? what correction factor? std hp? sae hp? metric hp?(ps)
im finding this hard to believe...
it runs over 200mph easy, but you only ran 190 with 2.5 miles? i doubt it runs over 200 with the lack of fairings, and totally destroyed ram air system....pod filters stuck on the frame??? im sorry, but you need to learn more before you will break a record. ask around, theres lots of good advice on here. start by fixing the intake
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top speed in the 1/4: 161 MPH N2O
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almost_les
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posted January 24, 2009 08:13 PM
Edited By: almost_les on 25 Jan 2009 03:27
no such thing as an easy 200. especially naked.
one thing you'll learn very quickly on this board are a lot of guys are very experienced in the world of land speed racing. raw power will give you the easy 190, but it takes much more setup and aero's to crack that final 200.
here's a video you should really watch regarding naked racing:
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Conquering-200MPH-on-a_170189.htm
not to be harsh, but you can kiss 237mph goodbye
5:43
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNdPdfZbnP4
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ZuminaZX
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posted January 25, 2009 04:38 PM
It's too bad you're still running the stock exhaust
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DeathProof
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posted January 26, 2009 12:57 PM
thanks for the interest guys, much respect, deffinity open to any info. i'm not a fool but after I got back from iraq I had a few screws loose, true, it is a 1272cc but I call it a 1270 and we can nit pic all day but then zx14 riders should call their bikes 1352's. unless your a wrench 1270 just sounds better of the tonge. I should know better posting to this site, thanks for the nut check, cough, it won't happen again infact I will post all specs, dyno, drag slips, etc, asap. The bike in the pics and video is the platform for the turbo build and the 200mph barrier in not that difficult on 50hp spray with a fresh tire and you know how to ride her right. I had no traction (tire) and no spray when I ran 190mph in the vid. At top end even something as simple as how you hold your arms can reduce your mph buy 20. No tire, hum wonder what that can do to your top end?, try slipping the whole way. Ride her ass to the back of the seat, chin on the tank, elbows in your ribs, boots parallel to the road, toes to the frame and knees griping tank, it helps alot. if you have a nice stretch like I have where I run with no wind or better yet a tail wind it is possible to hit 207 or more. undercut trans and new gearing are a must and a 19/35 sprocket set. in the pics i have the 46 tooth for wheelies. i stunt this bike. 237mph is a fully farring target w/ turbo and will be very hard to hit on the salt. bought a custom body kit for that run. 209mph is the current naked target and I think I can hit it but the list of mods I have planned is extensive and $$$. includes 2 - 4" alerons or fins at a 45 degree angle in the tail section, in the draft and lead balast on the swing arm. will post the list and cost. Thanks
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almost_les
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posted January 26, 2009 01:33 PM
Edited By: almost_les on 26 Jan 2009 20:40
i see. its just that the video shows the naked bike and then says "off to bonneville salt flats, utah to hit 237"
as for kzscott's comment regarding kits, he is refering to what the manufaturer calls them. muzzy makes the complete kit and calls it a 1270. wiseco is more accurate and calls the pistons 1272's. but wiseco doesn't make a kit, just pistons. he's also wondering about hp #'s because they can vary greatly depending on what format you're using.
some of the world's quickest, fastest, and experienced zx12r owners are here on bikeland. many of them take lsr stuff very seriously. you can't just expect to come on here out of the blue making claims to break everbodys records first year out on the salt and not expect people to start asking questions.
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DeathProof
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posted January 26, 2009 02:13 PM
true that, no disrespect intended. But I really want a record, willing to starve all year for it ($$$) and I understand that it is not going to be that easy. man do i wish, right. now i do feel like an idiot. on your youtube channel there is a vid of a green 12 that is smokin fast, is that you or are you on the red one. or both? nice!
the bike image as my avatar was my turbo f3, a drunk driver ran me off the road and into a sign. i hit it doin 85mph. destroyed the bike and shattered my legs, hence, DeathProof. Oh yeah, we are goin to race asap, i don't care if i loose it will be fun. just watch out for the second pass i might suprise ya.
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almost_les
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posted January 26, 2009 07:06 PM
no, if im not mistaken, he's got a 1287 w/ spray. possibly a stroker crank in there too.
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posted July 06, 2009 05:43 PM
zx12r streetfghterz revised
The bike is still going to the flats, hope to run 207mph (curent world record) or better on spray with lead ballast on the swing arm. billit clutch basket!!! blew the stocker twice - if you have a 12 save yourself the grief and buy a billit asap, carbon clutch kit, lock-up on the way, brakes, sprockets, big 1272cc motor is runnin sweet. more parts, had the old exhaust bracket mounted to the motor but looked shitty so i tossed it. the bike is still gettin new parts weekly and i've been playing with the gearing. I ave 37, 41, 45, 46, 50 tooth rear sprockets and 18, 19, 20 tooth fronts. the 19/37 and 20/37 are fast, top out gauges, but take miles to get to top end less i hit the nos early then i run out of juice too soon so i get a bigger bottle next week. i have found a 2.5 mile long arrow strait access road that is perfect for top end but even it is not long enough! let me know how you think the bike is turnin out, i'm sure some of you wil have somethin to say, bla.
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KZScott
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posted July 08, 2009 03:58 PM
you are planning on running and extended bike on the SALT??? DO NOT TRY THIS PLEASE. you could kill yourself when you hit the nitrous.
run stock WB and try about 60 pounds of lead ballast on the swingarm. you may get some traction that way, you are going to be pushing a lot of air without the front fairings. i hope your nitrous has a soft hit, or is progressive
carbon clutch kit? what brand?
steering damper? safety wire? got that stuff done?
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8.97@ 155.7 NA (pump gas)
top speed in the 1/4: 161 MPH N2O
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maddfayce
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posted July 08, 2009 04:00 PM
Hey man, you are onto something big. Keep us posted on how its coming along. Got to spend that desert money to keep us happy.....till the next trip. 3 time offender right here.
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posted July 09, 2009 03:30 PM
This is almost as funny as when I believed that scale at Thunder Valley and thought my bike weighed 390 lbs...........
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posted July 12, 2009 04:56 PM
kz, thanks for the advice bout the stretch on the salt you are not the first to suggest i not try it. the bike is shaping up though. you guys think it looks better already? safety wiring still needs to be done, dampener on the way, actually two that will mount to the forks behind the mask, or maybe i will get the muzzy one but it is damned expensive. Guy's this 1272cc has falicon internals, titanium valve set, heavy duty journals, berrings, edged crank, cams all modified, new fuel rail and velocity stacks on the way. Lesley Porterfield is the current naked record holder of 207mph on a 1700cc busa. she owns High Five Cycles in Dallas and i have been talking with her and she had a scare on the +4" stretched version of her bike on the salt the year before last. SHE WILL NOT TRY AGAIN and says its too hard to get a grip but that is just the challenge i am looking for. Is there a class for stretched bikes in the speed events? I think they need one as it is more difficult than short bikes. I am crazy and stupid reckless but I don't wish to be ground to a pulp out there. SO, I'm not gonna make it this year but i am working on the ballast design to hang round the rear of the tire not just on the swing arm and the shape of the rig (wing shapped) is goin to add down force as the draft passes over it or it might cause more problems, who knows but you can bet i will have tested it on my 2.5 mile strait away at top end before it goes to B-ville . A progressive shot a must! I have a dual stage set up 20/30. For a total of 50hp. I am gonna have a lockup, billet basket and barnett carbon clutch frictions, springs and steels kit. find it on ebay 200 bucks or so. much more body work to be done. removed the stupid pods from frame, i always had k&n inside frame just needed something to keep out the rain, bugs, old people, little kids and sh*t, as i ride the bike 150 miles or more every day, rain r shine. wild hair accessories has frame covers that mount around the ram air ducts now and can be made to function as short rams.i will buy them and a proper power commander will replace the confusing frankenstien ecu, my computer has been having problem communicating with it lately. i will be drag racing the bike at san antonio raceway as many weekends as possible this and next year soon as i get the lockup clutch and air shifter hooked up, gotta test the bike against some busas that own the trac down here. i will keep you all posted, respect to all but i know that some of you may not have the slightest notion of how to ride a streetfighter bike at the speeds i do, it may be hard to believe that 200 is possible and more if you know how to ride it so please don't tell me otherwise less you have tried for yourself on a ride like or better than mine. the fastest naked pass is the most uncomfortable one as the standard way to ride no longer applies without the fairings. i will post a pic of the position i am in when performing a naked pass at 200mph, only way i can keep from getting my ass kicked by the raging river of wind at that speed, i Hope to see some of you out there next year, thanks for all the help. keep the rubber to the ground.
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